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On 11 February 2012 20:58, Andy Smith <andy@???> wrote:
> Hi Ian,
>
> On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 08:19:25PM +0000, Ian wrote:
> > Andy said:
> >
> >> I do not recommend having all your nameservers in 85.119.80.0/21. If
> >> Jump Networks were to go off the air, none of your nameservers would
> >> be reachable. Of course, if everything you host is at BitFolk then
> >> that may not matter much, but still.
> >
> > Yeah, it has been that, having two VPSes,
>
> Do you mean two VPSes at BitFolk? If so, can you explain a bit more?
> Just trying to understand your needs here.
>
> > and the 50 domain limit which has put me off doing this.
>
> There's currently one customer who has just over 50 domains on the
> BitFolk secondary service, and I haven't yet contacted them to see
> what they want to do about it because:
>
> a) I haven't thought too much about what to charge for "above 50",
> and;
>
> b) Before charging I would like to have a better web interface in
> place so that customers can add, remove and disable domains
> without having to submit support tickets.
>
> So I have let them languish at just above 50 and will continue to do
> so until I have more of an idea.
>
> I haven't got rid of the 50 limit because I do still think there
> needs to be some sort of limit. The next person down the list by
> domain count is somewhere around 20 so it hasn't been a pressing
> issue.
>
> I should probably have realised though that there might be more of
> you who were just put off by there seeming to be nowhere to go.
>
> How many domains do you have? What would you consider a fair price
> for DNS hosting for them? Are there missing features that you feel
> would need to be implemented before BitFolk could actually charge
> for the >50 case?
>
> I want to focus on doing DNS hosting for existing customers only,
> which means they have the ability to run their own master DNS
> server(s)=B9. I don't want to get into hosting DNS with a web
> interface to manipulate zone content. I want to provide the DNS
> servers and monitoring of them, and basically any other assistance
> you can think of that enables you to run your own stuff.
>
> I appreciate that for a lot of people with a large number of domains
> the question may still be, "why would I pay BitFolk when there are
> companies out there that will provide secondary DNS for free?"=B2
>
> That's fine - what I'm trying to do is provide some nameservers for
> people who don't have them, and monitoring to go with it that is as
> comprehensive as possible. If that's not of interest then no
> worries.
>
> Also, I know that when it comes to paying, there are companies that
> will sell you DNS hosting, and their infrastructure will be a lot
> bigger and more resilient than BitFolk's. That's also OK - maybe one
> day I can compete with them on that score, but right now I am still
> trying to cater to the hobbyist and small business and hope to come
> in at a lower price than these services.
>
> But if you or anyone else does have interest in putting more than 50
> domains on BitFolk's servers, what sort of pricing and other things
> would you like to see?
>
> As far as pricing goes, OK let's start. What about first 50 domains
> per VPS for free (as it is now), then every block of 50 domains
> after that is =A30.99+VAT per month or =A39.99+VAT per year?
>
> And I make the add/remove/disable/enable thing work first.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
> =B9 Having a VPS gives the technical basis, but I don't mind taking an
> AXFR from anywhere.
>
> =B2 I don't actually know any, but I assume there are plenty. I don't
> mind if people want to suggest some.
>
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