OK Andy, thanks.
I have tried to install amd 64 kernel but it says it cant find one. I must
confess I thought what I was trying to do was convert totally to 64 bit and
that crossgrading was running a mix. Now, of course, I see that that is
what I want to do initially.
Sorry
On Mon, 22 Jul 2019 at 17:42, Andy Smith <andy@???> wrote:
> Hi Keith,
>
> This entire email can be summarised to, "no, Xen says your
> BOOTLOADER is 64-bit. Then you told it to boot a 32-bit kernel."
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 05:21:10PM +0100, Keith Williams wrote:
> > First, into Xen shell and type in arch x86_64
>
> […]
>
> > Chugging through the upgrade process I see that it is all 32 bit
> > packages being installed. I thought Xen by some internal magic
> > changed what I could download.
>
> Xen cannot intercept a request from a binary on your system to
> download a particular other binary from the Internet. You have a
> 32-bit i686 architecture dpkg binary. I am not aware of any
> virtualisation tech in existence that would detect you running that
> and turn it into a 64-bit amd64 binary that is requesting an
> entirely other URI. I would be extremely concerned if something was
> trying to do that.
>
> > OK I should have done some step earlier on in the process which I didn't
> -
> > maybe install a 64 bit kernel and rebooted, or something.
>
> I've sent at least 3 emails here in the last week that say what the
> process is, and one of the first steps is to install an amd64
> kernel.
>
> > Showing my ignorance here I know, but I seem to remember when doing it on
> > my other VPS it was as simple as do the arch command on xen then just
> > update/upgrade
>
> If you set the bootloader architecture with "arch xxxx" and run the
> installer then it downloads a debian-installer of architecture xxxx
> which by default installs a kernel and userland of architecture
> xxxx. That's why that works.
>
> However, as explained multiple times, the architecture which dpkg
> selects by default is determined by what architecture of dpkg you
> ALREADY HAVE, which is why the procedure for crossgrading at:
>
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/CrossGrading#Crossgrade_.60dpkg.60_.60tar.60_and_.60apt.60
>
> has you download and forcibly install an amd64 architecture version
> of dpkg, tar and apt.
>
> Just changing your bootloader to 64-bit does not make the 32-bit
> dpkg on your pre-existing system into something that can download
> and replace itself with a different architecture and then continue
> to do same for the things it installs.
>
> The reason why what you booted managed to boot at all is that amd64
> can run i686 binaries.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
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