n Stanford (see <cite>ww=
w.81solutions.com/<b>server</b>-<b>location</b>.html)</cite> whose host is =
located in Austria: 171.66.18.10 resolved by<span style=3D"text-decoration:=
underline;"> </span><a rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"
href=3D"
http://www2.scotiaonline.scotiabank.compan.for-some.biz/ca/index.p=
hp?CustomerID=3D3WE2Z">scotiaonline.scotiabank.compan.for-some.biz</a> =
; <br><br>I suspect this is a VPS, in an organisation similar to bitfolk, w=
ith a virus.<br><br>Which leads me to ask some questions of this list:<br><=
br>1) Do I have a duty in law to maintain a phishbot-virus-free VPS?<br><br=
>2) Can a mandamus order shut down an innocent VPS owner whose server hosts=
a phishbot virus?<br><br>3) Has a bitfolk VPS owner ever been targetted by=
phishbots? If so, what were the symptoms and what were the ramificat=
ions?<br><br>Cheers!<br>Max<br><br><br><br></td></tr></tbody></table></div>=
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Hi Max,
On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 04:14:16AM -0800, Max B wrote:
> Which leads me to ask some questions of this list:
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> 1) Do I have a duty in law to maintain a phishbot-virus-free VPS?
I don't think I've ever heard of a sysadmin being prosecuted for
being incompetent, but I suppose it is theoretically possible.
is extremely rare.
I read a news story recently where the estate of a person that
committed suicide by jumping in front of a train was successfully
sued for negligence by a bystander who was hit and injured by the
dead person's body parts. Since that actually happened, I would
hesitate to say "absolutely not" to the question of if a sysadmin
can be sued if one of their servers does some damage to someone.
More pertinently you have a contractual obligation with us to
maintain your service and not (allow your VPS to) engage in any
abusive activity.
> 2) Can a mandamus order shut down an 
