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> 1. Maintenance scheduled for dunkel, 1 hour, 2010-02-26 0630Z
> (Was: Re: 2010-02-22 1559Z: Unscheduled power cycle of
> server
> dunkel) (Andy Smith)
> 2. migrating mail to gmail (Duggie)
> 3. Re: migrating mail to gmail (Ian Lovingboth)
> 4. Re: migrating mail to gmail (Duggie)
> 5. Re: migrating mail to gmail (Jocke Selin)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 16:14:19 +0000
> From: Andy Smith <andy@???>
> Subject: [bitfolk] Maintenance scheduled for dunkel, 1 hour,
> 2010-02-26 0630Z (Was: Re: 2010-02-22 1559Z: Unscheduled
> power cycle
> of server dunkel)
> To: users@???
> Message-ID: <20100223161419.GK15325@???>
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> Hello,
>
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2010 at 04:30:00PM +0000, Andy Smith wrote:
>> I can see no reason and nothing logged to explain this power outage.
>> It also happened before on 2010-01-12 and 2009-10-07 so I suspect a
>> faulty PSU. A loose cable also a slim possibility. I'll be
>> scheduling a visit to the colo to check and replace in the next
>> week, and a short downtime will be associated with this.
>>
>> I'll follow up soon with the planned date/time.
>
> I will be shutting this server down starting from 0630Z 2010-02-26
> i.e. this Friday morning UK time. I will attempt to do a suspend to
> disk, so it may be some minutes before your VPS is shut down.
>
> If that doesn't work, a full shutdown/boot of your VPS will be
> required. Please try to make sure your VPS does shut down and start
> up again cleanly with all the services you expect to be running. If
> you block ping, then allowing it from 212.13.194.71 would be a big
> help to me in determining whether your VPS is working or not.
>
> I intend to change the power cable (slim possibility of loose pins)
> and the PSU (small possibility of some intermittent fault) and
> generally check that all components are secure. Based on past
> results we potentially won't know for many months if that has fixed
> things, but if it doesn't then the next step is motherboard swap.
>
> I expect Friday's work to take less than 1 hour.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
> --
> http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS hosting
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:21:04 +0000
> From: Duggie <duggie@???>
> Subject: [bitfolk] migrating mail to gmail
> To: Bitfolkers <users@???>
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> Hi there,
>
> I'm considering migrating my email handling to gmail for business.
> I've used gmail as a web interface to my email for several years. It
> works, and the spam filtering seems to be correct in almost every
> case.
>
> My current mail handling works as follows...
>
> I use exim4 to handle the email for 6 domains. Only 2 of the domains
> are used regularly, with about 10 accounts for each. It's not a big
> set-up.
> I have a droplist containing 718 'To:' addresses which definitely do
> not exist - I was the target of a spam attack a few years ago. The
> spammer created thousands of fake addresses using my domain. I get a
> lot of attempts to these addresses, but the blocklist has been very
> effective in taking the load of my server. :)
>
> I make use of some wildcard addresses. john@???,
> john-foo@??? and john-bar@??? and
> john-amazon.com@??? are all accepted as valid addresses for
> user 'John'. I used to use qmail and really liked the dot qmail idea.
>
> Of the mail which gets through, I check the senders against a couple
> of SBL lists (zen.spamhaus.org and list.dsbl.org). I perform a few
> more checks before I pass it on to procmail. I use procmail to filter
> through a whitelist and blacklist, then through ClamAssassin and
> Bitfolk's SpamAssassin daemon. If it hasn't been dumped by this stage,
> it is forwarded to a gmail account for ease of reading.
>
> Does this sound like something which could be migrated to gmail? The
> SBL and (clam|spam)assassin isn't a problem - gmail does this itself.
> My concern is with the wildcard addresses. I know gmail supports the
> '+ syntax' e.g. john+amazon.com@???, but manually converting
> all of the addresses which use a hyphen, to use a plus sign would be
> an impossible task. Unless you know of a viable solution?
>
> I think that I make my email handling more difficult than necessary -
> mostly borne out of that spam attack I went through
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Francis-Macrae) - but also because
> of my frequent use of wildcard addresses.
>
> Suggestions welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Duggie
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2010 20:41:21 +0000
> From: Ian Lovingboth <lovingboth@???>
> Subject: Re: [bitfolk] migrating mail to gmail
> To: Bitfolkers <users@???>
> Message-ID:
> <3e5b6da11002231241j166f8309ud2b83deb24e0a532@???>
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> Duggie said:
>
>> I'm considering migrating my email handling to gmail for business.
>> I've used gmail as a web interface to my email for several years. It
>> works, and the spam filtering seems to be correct in almost every
>> case.
>
> I still find false positives, but yes, it's generally ok.
>
>> My current mail handling works as follows...
>>
>> I use exim4 to handle the email for 6 domains. Only 2 of the domains
>> are used regularly, with about 10 accounts for each.
>
> I use Postfix. It is told to check conformance to various standards,
> and if ok, a greylist daemon checks to see if they've sent email to
> the server correctly before. If not, the sender gets told to try again
> later. If so, it's either chucked away as going to a non-existent
> address or delivered to both a local email inbox *and* Gmail. Some
> domains accept mail for almost any address, others on only a few.
>
> I use Gmail as a free backup and a web interface and I don't bother
> with SBL or SpamAssassin. Greylisting seems to work so well, I've
> never seen the need.
>
>> Does this sound like something which could be migrated to gmail?
>
> Not knowing exim4, can you tell it to deliver valid mail to a Gmail
> account rather than to a local inbox, as you can with Postfix?
>
>> I think that I make my email handling more difficult than necessary -
>
> A friend has so many checks, it is amazing that any mail gets
> through to him.
>
> Ian
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:07:46 +0000
> From: Duggie <duggie@???>
> Subject: Re: [bitfolk] migrating mail to gmail
> To: Ian Lovingboth <lovingboth@???>
> Cc: Bitfolkers <users@???>
> Message-ID:
> <a483ffbe1002240107l61aa970mdcef4c3dad4ded89@???>
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>
> Hi Ian,
>
> Thanks for the feedback. My main concern is with the wildcard address
> syntax. I have hundreds of legacy addresses which use a hyphon. Gmail
> uses a plus symbol.
>
> Let's say john@??? is a valid address and it's a wildcard
> account. That means john-foo@???, john-bar@??? and
> john-amazon.com@??? are all valid addresses too (they get
> delivered to john's inbox).
>
> Gmail's syntax means the addresses need to be:
> john+foo@???
> john+bar@???
> john+amazon.com@???
>
> If I update my MX record to allow gmail to handle my email, can I
> still support the hyphon syntax? Or, how can I automagically change
> those to be pluses?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Duggie
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:51:06 +0000
> From: Jocke Selin <jocke@???>
> Subject: Re: [bitfolk] migrating mail to gmail
> To: Duggie <duggie@???>, Bitfolkers <users@???>
> Message-ID: <F0512AAF-3151-4F33-A871-EC24AA5753CD@???>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On 24 Feb 2010, at 09:07, Duggie wrote:
>> Thanks for the feedback. My main concern is with the wildcard address
>> syntax. I have hundreds of legacy addresses which use a hyphon. Gmail
>> uses a plus symbol.
>
> I'm a bit busy here, and I've not fully read your emails, but I knog
> Google Apps can handle wildcards and aliases. If that's not enough,
> you can always set up a catch-all address and use filtering in that
> mailbox to ditch out the emails to the correct email address'.
>
> I think that would work!?
>
> I run Google Apps and I'm very pleased with it, albeit I don't have
> a big organisation to administer.
>
> Cheers,
>
> /JS
>
>
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